Media Is Already Calling Dredgers Fate

[CalGoldDredger]

Here is a news article form, Nevada, about the new mercury study. Seems the media is already calling our fate. Leave comments!!!

http://www.theunion.com/article/20110127/NEWS/110129767/1002&parentprofile=1053

[Geo-George]

“I think most people recognize suction dredging can do an pretty effective job of removing coarse sediment, but there hasn't been much study of the finer-grained materials,” Alpers explained. “One of the concerns is what happens to that material during the dredging process.”

Just why in the #ell hasn't there been such a study?

Our friend, dredging, is accused of a crime, yet "reasonable doubt" has not been removed.
It's a linching, that's what it is, a linching!

[gremlin]

mercury, in my light bulbs good. mercury that i mite or could disturb in dreaging bad, bad very bad.

[russau]

i get this info by email (newsletter)from them, i left a few comments untill i got to pzzed to send another.theyre failed logic and not takeing the floods into account and blaiming it all on dredgeing was to much for me not to comment. they also fail to take into account or completely disregard all of the gubermint agencys reports on the deminimus effects of dredgeing in the western states including Alaska.i wish everyone would comment back to them all of the info we have.

[finegold]

The entire premise of the disturbed mercury in the stream/river environment is so flawed as to be near criminal. It is in complete denial of the natural geologic and hydrologic process and history. The natural geologic condition is not a stable un-changing environment. The natural process is "in your face" measurable and documented. The "normal" cycle would be complete transportation of the bed materials, bank to bank, with scouring of the hardpan or bedrock (when not altered or modified by human infrastructure). The beautiful bank side trees and shrubs (the riparian) that shade the swimming fish and "stabilize" the banks and gravel bars are typically short term and temporary - not a forever condition, in fact it is in the long term the opposite of normal. The significant example is the movement of the tailings from the Malakoff Hydraulic Mining, which created havoc, in the Sacramento Valley - but only because people lived and farmed in the Valley. No people and no one would have cared. Not suggesting it was good or bad, only saying that it was an acceleration of the natural process of the building of the alluvial plane. In a geologic micro second, about ten years, the gravel and sediment, moved tens of miles - along with everything in the matrix including mercury. Mercury and anything else, within the edge to edge banks of the aquarian/raprian bed material, was put in suspension (major disturbed but natural and normal). Anyone who is worried about suction dredging disturbing a stable and protected mercury in the bed material needs to get educated and/or psychological help. This entire disturbed mercury argument is a "red Herring". It is a huge lie using serious fear on susceptible well meaning people, who are intentionally and with malice, being manipulated for the hidden agenda by a select few. I consider this a type of psychological terrorism.

[Reno badboy]

WHAT A CROCK OF HORSE S--T!!!!! FREAKIN' POLITICIANS NEED TO BE LINCHED!!! AND THE GREENIES NEED TO BE TIED TO A TREE AND LEFT TO THE BEARS(even they wouldn't mess with them, they taste like mud!!)!!!!!

[Plumas]

Yup. The very same people who tell you that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Plumas

[h20prospector]

WHAT A CROCK OF HORSE S--T!!!!! FREAKIN' POLITICIANS NEED TO BE LINCHED!!! AND THE GREENIES NEED TO BE TIED TO A TREE AND LEFT TO THE BEARS(even they wouldn't mess with them, they taste like mud!!)!!!!!

Don't put them in the forest. The bears will have a bad taste for years to come!

[gremlin]

i do not think rivers are ever going to stop moving even if we tried to slow them down. we have a town neer me that is trying to get the river back. i can not find the story of it. during one flood the river changed corse it moved the bend in the river. this left the town that had the river moving neer some parks to be high and dry. since that day they have been trying to come up with a plan to move the river back. i did find a story close to it in new hampshier. it seems that rivers will move with out notice, plans of operation or even a note by God.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/29/us/29river.html A River Cuts a New Course, Leaving a New Hampshire Town High and Dry

http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/OxusRiver.htm
Now, large rivers in alluvial plains are prone to shifting their banks. Anyone who's read Mark Twain's Life on the Mississippi knows this; Twain trained as a riverboat pilot, and it was a difficult job--because the Mississippi in his day changed its entire face from year to year. Its banks were constantly eroding, the river-bottom itself shifted depth, and farms along the shore could become islands without warning. Likewise, the Oxus' companion river the Jaxartes (now known as the Syr Darya) used to shift its banks up to a hundred yards sideways in the course of a single year. In the mid-eighteen-hundreds, Russian engineers cut the first railway across the deserts through which the Oxus and Jaxartes both run. They did not come near the Oxus, but they (and others) left records of the Jaxartes: its vicinity, they said, was filled with a constant noise and tumult of crashes, as pieces of the river's bank slid into the water. The river-bed moved even as the engineers tried to span it with bridges, and a railway bridge built one season could be left high and dry by next summer, while the Jaxartes itself proceeded on its merry way

[foundit]

For this to be a remotely legitimate study there needs to be a control, what is their control, they have none because most methyl mercury comes from atmospheric pollution, car exhaust, industrial exhaust, etc. I am sure if a turbidity test was done during the flood season it would contaminate the study with with ambient methyl mercury that continually falls to earth globally, If they said that the methyl mercury is coming from solid mercury breaking down then removing the solid mercury, which Stopher said dredges do just fine, would be logical course of action, could it be that the Salmon after eating mercury laden bait fish in the ocean are dying up river and adding to the problem year after year, I say we must then eliminate the Salmon for our children's safety, I wonder what happens to peoples intelligence, patriotism and I.Q. once they hit Gov. jobs? This study is beyond ludicrous, it is as a previous poster stated CRIMINAL in every sense, this is not just about dredging, its about how our freedoms, intelligence, money and hard work are being rapped by political greed and special interest, if we do not want socialism to be the mainstay of our life then this stuff must end....but how?....will History repeat itself?, in a true Democracy we would have an equal say in this matter, but what it comes down to is the money of special interest swaying Gov. in its favor. I also Metal Detect and the same thing is happening to this, it is being shut down, there are actually places that say anything older than 2008 is an archeological find WTF!!!!! They are giving these trust fund college lifer so called archeologist authority to take away our freedoms .......and on and on it goes till we all fall down and the Chinese pick up the pieces.