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OREGON CLOSURES

Postby Hoser John » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:30 pm

Agency seeks public input on proposed 5-year ban of mining on Chetco River

Written by Steve Kadel, Pilot staff writer

October 28, 2011 11:06 pm

Local residents strongly supported banning future mining along the Chetco River during a forum Wednesday afternoon at the Best Western Inn.

The session, hosted by the U.S. Forest Service, was intended for testimony on a proposal to prohibit mining near the river for five years ­– with the possible exception of existing claims.

Thirteen people testified in favor of the ban. No one spoke against it.

Some proponents mentioned mining’s threat to clean water because the Chetco provides drinking water for Brookings and Harbor. Others noted the presence of salmon in the wild and scenic river, a declining resource among West Coast rivers.

Many said the river not only improves the quality of life for local residents, but brings tourists who contribute to the Curry County economy.

Jim Wegener said he moved to Harbor three years ago from the San Francisco Bay area specifically to be near the river.

“The true value of the Chetco River is its pristine beauty,” he said.

Yvonne Maitland added that mining operations “will have a cumulative and negative effect on the condition of the river. Gold mining is in direct conflict with the purpose of the federal ‘Wild and Scenic’ designation.”

She urged the Forest Service to consider “the greater public good” by protecting the Chetco.

Entomologist Marius Wasvauer of the Chetco River Watershed Council said suction dredge mining such as that proposed on the Chetco River would damage aquatic life that fish depend on for food.

Tim Palmer agreed that mining would threaten food sources for fish, and added that mining would flush silt downstream to destroy salmon spawning beds. He said the river is pristine because there are no towns or dams upstream.

“This is a unique situation on the West Coast,” Palmer said.

“We are so fortunate to be so close to something so wild and beautiful,” said Stormy Lake.

Ann Vileisis, president of the Kalmiopsis Audubon Society, cited a study for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife that estimated $4.5 million was spent for freshwater fishing trips in Curry County during 2008.

“It’s a matter of economics and qualify of life for local people,” she said.

At issue is an application the Rogue River-Siskiyou National Forest submitted to the Bureau of Land Management. It requests the Secretary of the Interior to ban mining along 5,610 acres along the Chetco from where it exits the Kalmiopsis Wilderness to the Siskiyou National Forest boundary.

That 17-mile segment is in the upper portion of the river. The ban would extend inland for a quarter mile from the river’s banks.

As of Aug. 1, the Department of the Interior placed a two-year moratorium on new mining while the larger issue is processed.

Alan Vandiver, Forest Service district ranger in the Gold Beach office, said existing mining claims would not be covered under the potential ban. However, for mining activity to take place on those claims, owners would have to get Forest Service approval.

Vandiver said that approval would only be given if the Forest Service verified that the discovery of a valuable mineral deposit had been made.

Eleven people have mining claims on the Chetco, he said, although it’s unclear how many total claims are involved.

Besides Wednesday afternoon’s public testimony forum, a similar session was held that night.

Written comments supporting or opposing the potential ban may be given to the Bureau of Land Management state director at: Oregon/Washington State Director, BLM, P.O. Box 2965, Portland, OR 97208-2965.

The deadline to submit comments is Nov. 30.

http://www.currypilot.com/201110281...- ... etco-River



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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby russau » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:22 am

11 claims on this river and NOBODY showed up to speak against this???????? i wonder if the affected land users were informed of this meeting?
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby Hoser John » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:03 am

Good question bud--it's a requirement of law but they never follow the law. FS pulled the same same here in kalif on my trinity claims as the Soldier creek restoration project with NO NOTIFICATIONS to landowners. I called,emailed and posted all over Weaverville and sent in great comment too. When the cat was outta the bag they cancelled their meeting and waiting months now??? Sneaky CENSOREDrs-John :?
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby russau » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:21 am

sounds like the typical sneaky stuff that they usually are told todo by the wacoenviromentalists that "controll" our guberment! and we put up with it!
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby Gramps43 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:25 pm

Here's a copy of the letter I hope to get the Curry Coastl Pilot to publish I had to pare down my original 1900+ to 436 which is less than Kadel's article.

On banning mining on the Chetco


To the folks who want to ban mining on the Chetco. First let me ask a question of all you folks out there, who thinks this will be the only river closed down to miners?.... Wow no one raised there hand and guess what you’re right, if you’re successful this will only be the beginning.

Ms. Maitland you are exasperatingly wrong about any negative effect on the condition of river. When the dredger pulls all that compacted river bottom along this rocks pebbles he creates a “plumme de grocerie”, as it were and the fish party down on the bounty. Oh by the wootsie this country was not created for “the greater public good” it was created for the good of all and it has a constitution, that I spent twenty years of my life defending, guaranteeing that.

Entomologist Wasvauer is just plain misguided; the dredge season is approx. 3 months and during that time probably less that 100 dredges will work the river. Any critters that are turned into fish food will be replaced over the ensuing 9 months.

Really Mr. Palmer the miners are working in the spawning grounds, if they were working above the grounds that might hold true but there isn’t enough water up that high on the river to do much dredging, so that balloon goes “POP.” And NO this is not a unique situation you have; I would say that all the rivers from northern CA to WA support populations of Anadromous fishes. You have but one river to fawn over, while up here in Tillamook we have “five” rivers flowing into Tillamook Bay, feeling dis-uniqued yet.

Stormy Lake, I up your “wild and beautiful” by a factor of 5, feeling unfortunate yet.

Ms. Vileisis, Think of how much five rivers bring in, mind boggling ain’t it.

If you folks think this letter is mean then you really don’t have clue what mean is. Take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself and ask yourself what am I doing with my life. Am I living peacefully with my fellow man or am I being “mean” denying some of my neighbors and fellow Oregonians the pleasures of the land that God or Mother Nature gave to us all to enjoy. Are you becoming another arm of the Neo-Socialist government that is slowly but inexorably taking away our rights to recreate on public land. For as surely as you stand at that mirror this just one installment on the grand plan to strip us of our rights and freedoms. I would hope that this stupid and potentially disastrous idea is defeated in the court opf common sense.

Dennis Sheridan
Tillamook, OR

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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby Hoser John » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:26 am

Thanx Gramps--1 letter from a citizen typed or written carries the same weight as a petition with 1,000 signatures as it represents thought,dedication and commitment and you've shown all three- KUDOS SIR :D tons a au 2 u 2-John
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby russau » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:41 am

yep, thanks Gramps!
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby eightymesh » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:38 am

oh and by the way what they are trying to do is illegal and leave them personally open to a denial of civil right suits...
the goons that ticketed randy are now libel to get sued in civil court for violating his rights ....


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Executive Summary The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby Hoser John » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:40 am

What part a they don't give a shat whats legal or not that you don't understand??? The list of environutz I posted has over a BILLION AND A HALF that I gleaned from just 50(over 100 total) or so websites and over 2 1/4 million dues paying radical enviro smucks as members :lol: and miners :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Jefferson bs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The question has been asked a dozen times on half a dozen forums-SHOW ME A SUCCESS RECENTLY THAT SHOWS A MINING DISTRIST CAN CHANGE ANYTHING?? No examples ever posted ;) ;) ;) to investigate for credability--John
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Re: OREGON CLOSURES

Postby CalGoldDredger » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:58 pm

I am sure there will be lots more of this marlarkey as the mc crapsters move north to Oregon as their master secures "fantastic" new ground to foster more promotional hype.

Nothing like some high density mining for all civilization to witness. :x :x :x
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