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Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:25 amby Hoser John
CDG-don't leave out the jail time, loss of equipment and what brung ya. This is what it is--one massive cluster&^%k of the worst magnatude. Casino $$$$$ runs kailf now and stay out of them damn casinos-YOU ARE FEEDING THE ENEMY-John
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:51 pmby Sean C
How many of you with remote claims have ever been visited by any government employee. I doubt they will be able to enforce sb670 anywhere that they can't drive right down to where you are working.
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:46 pmby CalGoldDredger
Not very well at least. Or with any sort of ease.
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:38 amby Hoser John
They used planes and environutz spotters,campers,hikers,fishermen and hunters. Environutz have a toll free hotline to turn you in. Also the CITIZENS PATROL wacko environutz run around looking to turn you in. It no longer matters where you are as real time info on line for them to zoom in and come visit. Big brother is watching with a cadre of friggn' insane radical environutz looking for you to be a featured hero--ya crawdad food mo'fo-John
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:27 pmby tommyknocker
You are right John (Hoser), I have personal experience with what you said....I'm building a gravity dredge...and taking it to where no enviro-nazi or warden has ever tread!
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:34 pmby CalGoldDredger
Tight canyons, where the sun don't shine.
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:31 pmby Sean C
I too have been contemplating a gravity reclaimator. Without the noise you'll be less likely to draw attention I suppose. No hookah limits what you can get to though.
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:42 pmby old gold miner
CalGoldDredger wrote:Yep loss and then some...
...fines that is if one gets caught in the act.
You & another person, qualify as an “association”.
F&GC 5653. (a) The use of any vacuum or suction dredge equipment by any person in any river, stream, or lake of this state is prohibited, except as authorized under a permit issued to that person by the department in compliance with the regulations adopted pursuant to Section 5653.9.
F&GC 5653.8. For purposes of Sections 5653 and 5653.3, "person" does not include a partnership, corporation, or other type of association.
To initiate a valid mining claim, under the General Mining Laws, a U.S. citizen must act in “association” with, and pursuant to Federal law (30 U.S.C. § 21 et seq.). Once the requirements of the General Mining Laws are met, the right granted by the statute is a real property interest, i. e., “property in the fullest sense of that term.” (Wilbur v. United States ex rel. Krushnic, 280 U.S. 306, 316 (1930).)
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:10 amby Hoser John
SC-briggs low tone mufflers work pretty good too 1/4th the noise-John
Re: Federal Case Dismissed today
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:28 pmby CalGoldDredger
Thanks OGM.
I see where your going with that, ah a loop hole.
I hope you legal type guys are able to think up some kind of way to stop all this prejudice aqainst gold dredgers.