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PLP's Recent Activities

Postby jerhobbs » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:54 pm

For the several weeks Public Lands for the People (PLP) have had there nose to the grindstone on 3 ongoing legal issues. Of course one of those important issues was the Karuk v. DFG tax payer lawsuit where Judge Roesche put in place an Injunction that prevented the Ca. DFG from issuing suction dredge permits. Although the Injunction did not cancel those permits that had already been issued for 2009 it didn't take long for the Ca. Legislature to come along with SB 670 and stop those who already had permits and close all of the waters in the state to suction dredge mining.
PLP and other plaintiffs have filed an appeal in the California Appellate Court for the Karuk Tribe etal vs. California Department of Fish and Game taxpayer lawsuit and Injunction. The Karuk attempted to bring new evidence into the Appellate Court, that is evidence that was not brought up in the original case. PLP made a motion to strike the new evidence and opposed the Karuk Tribe etal attempt to bring in new evidence into the arguments in the appellate court.
PLP and other plaintiffs have recently filed another state lawsuit against the State of California, the Department of Fish and Game and Governor Schwarzenegger for implementing SB 670 which closed all of the waterways in the state. This complaint alleges violations of both the California and the Federal Constitutions, the Mining Act of 1872, Federal Commerce Clause, Equal Protection Act and the California Water Laws.  
The 3rd lawsuit that  PLP has filed is an Amended Complaint on Eldorado National Forest and their Travel Management Plan which essentially closes almost all dirt roads either part of or all of the year. Everyone is affected by the Travel Management Plan as far as access to the Forest, particularlly miners and prospectors with mining claims. The Eldorado National Forest solution to this problem is that the prospectors and miners can submit a Plan of Operations to get access to the forest or the mining claims. It is PLP's position that the Forest Service is not only violating federal law, including the mining law but they are also violating their own regualtions (36 CFR 228.4 A-1(i)). This lawsuit whether it is won or lost will affect all National Forests, either in the National Forest users favor if won or against the National Forests users if lost.   
Even though PLP has been quiet on the websites for obvious reasons, mainly because we are not the only entities that read the sites, We are continuing on a path to keep our public lands open and our rights intact. With this in mind we understand that when these issues are out of sight they are also out of mind and our donations have fallen off drastically. PLP's expenses continue and we need to rehabilitate our coffers to continue what we are doing. So if you folks can dig in to your pockets and help us out we would appreciate it very much. PLP would also like to thank all of those who have supported us in the past and continue to support us.  
Don't forget that we have another great Raffle with some very nice prizes donated by other great supporters of the cause. There is a list of the  raffle prizes in this newsletter and the California Mining Journal. Please consider buying some of the tickets or joining PLP. The cost for Raffle tickets is $1.00 each or 12 for $10.00.  
 
Thanks to all of our loyal supporters over the last  20 years. 
Jerry Hobbs
  PLP President
You can reach Jerry Hobbs at 909-889-3039 or email at jerhobbs2@verizon.net or www.PLP2.org
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby russau » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:09 am

Thankyou Jerry and PLP for all youve done to help defend our rights! the fight is never over,they just keep coming back with another lie, one after the other and our gubermint lets them keep doing it!
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby russau » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:53 pm

well guys, nows the time to support those that are supporting our mining rights and our access to the land! if PLP cant do it anymore, whos going to fight for our rights?? if we dont support PLP, they wont be able to continue to pay the lawyers and do our bidding! if you think its bad now, just wait!
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby cmfd70 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:51 pm

The raffle in December 2010 is on Thursday the 16th at Keene Engineering in Chatsworth CA> Get your tickets now. Don't wait until the last minute. You can get tickets any 1 of 4 different ways. check the end of the post.
Raffle Tickets are $1.00 each or a book of 12 for $10.00
December 16, 2010 Raffle Prizes - $7475 total in Prizes
1. Keene 3” Power Sluice, dredge Combo Keene Engineering $3000.00
2. White GMT Metal Detector Whites of California $ 800.00
3. Tesoro Lobo Metal Detector Tesoro Detectors & Jobe Mining Supply $ 800.00
4. ¼ Karat Diamond & Gold Necklace Anonymous Donor $ 700.00
5. 3 Day Gold Trip in Oregon Dave Rattan $ 500.00
6. Deluxe Blue Bowl Kit Donated Pioneer Mining $ 250.00
7. 1 Year Membership, Golden Caribou Mining Barry & Gordon Burton $ 250.00
8. 1 year Membership, Golden Caribou Mining Gordon & Barry Burton $ 250.00
9. Columbian Amber and Lightbox Guy Nesbitt $ 250.00
10. Falcon Pin Pointer Detector Armadillo Mining Shop $ 225.00
11. Pair of Gold Nugget earrings Scott Warner/ Golden Dreams, $ 100.00
12. Crystalline Gold Tie Tack Scott Warner/ Golden Dreams $100.00
13. Amethyst cathedral - Scott Warner/Golden Dreams $100.00
14. A 51 (a) Sluice box Keene Engineering $100.00
15. 2 OZ. Silver rounds George Corsis/Gold/Silver Enterprises $50.00

4 ways to order tickets;

1. Order Raffle Tickets on line by Credit Card plp1.org/raffleticketsandprizes.html

2. Order by Email, jerhobbs2@verizon.net

3. Order by Telephone Message 909-889-3039, leave call back number, address, and how many tickets wanted.

4. Order By Mail - Public Lands for the People c/o Jerry Hobbs 7184 Conejo Dr. San Bernardino, Ca. 92404
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby russau » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:51 pm

i passed out 20 books of tickets to our GPAA Gateway Gold Prospectors club here in Missouri.
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby Illuminator » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:22 pm

I personally donate quite alot of my time to helping PLP raise funds to keep them going.
PLP is working on a shoestring budget like everyone right now except GANG GREEN who have millions to spend tying us up in court.
People in the mining community are very generous when it comes to protecting their rights but we are a small group.Times are tough right now but keep in mind if PLP loses the funding to keep the fight going there is no one out there with a no comprimise philosiphy that will fight for our rights on a voluntary basis.Remember that PLP is a 501-c3 all board members volunteer their time.Buy some raffle tickets,become a member or donate today!
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby mrlocksmith » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:07 pm

Public Lands for the People needs your help now more than ever. It seems that all forms of small scale prospecting is under attack from many angles. Soon it will be hard to get out and just go nugget hunting because our rights of access to our claims and mining areas are being denied by National Forest Travel Management Plans let alone environmental over-regulation and prohibition that dredgers face. If the small scale mining community does not collectively" wake up" and take action our way of life, our property rights to our claims and mining history will soon be lost.

Every dollar you donate to PLP will be matched by ICMJ's Mining Journal up to a $4000.00 Cap. All you have to do is notify them of your donation.

See the link here:

http://www.icmj.com/article.php?id=904& ... the_People

Use this link to donate, or even renew your membership or better yet.. become a new member.

http://plp1.org/joinplpclickhere.html


Checks or Money Orders can be sent to this Address:

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La Crescenta, Ca. 91214-1048


Times are tough and every penny counts.......please donate what you can... I will be

Mark Weiss
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby russau » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:48 am

not only is our mining rights and access at risk, logging,atv/dirt bikes and any form of using "our land" is at risk of being forbidden! and the worst part of it is that we are finnancining the wacoenviromentalists entire grab through our taxs and the awards these jerks get by sueing our gubermint! we need to sue for a mulitimillion dollar amount!heck were paying for it, lets fight to get some of it back for us! these wacos have a well finnanced orginizations. and there are lots of them out there. they even teach it to our children in schools. they have their grip on the news and tv shows. and what are we doing sitting here ??? join/support PLP. fight with /support those that are fighting for your rights! or go watch Opra on TV and stew about not being able to go dredgeing! fight amoungst ourselves wont get anything done to restore our mining rights anywhere! lets get something done so we all can get back out dredgeing in every state!
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby Paul Coambs » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:55 pm

PLP's legal activities on behalf of all miners is expensive.

Join PLP and get all of your mining buddies to do the same. That is the only way that we are going to survive the legal and bureaucratic assault on our mining rights.
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Re: PLP's Recent Activities

Postby Golden Dreams » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:51 am

Jerry, Thank you for your dedication and commitment to preserving our legal rights. I am committed in helping you in this endeavor and will assist you the best I can. I challenge all other miners and Land use advocates to join us and help us fight to preserve our rights, as so many other organizations and politicians are trying to shut us down and deny us access to our Public lands. Stand up, join the battle and make a difference.
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