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Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Matt Mattson » Sun May 16, 2010 2:43 pm

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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby russau » Sun May 16, 2010 2:59 pm

Matt as you well know, its about money and politics! or is it politics and money? i guess theyre the same thing to some!
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Hoser John » Mon May 17, 2010 6:49 am

I hope you saw 60 minutes last night as this diaster is miniscule IN COMPARISON TO THE WHATS REALLY GOING ON right now. TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO GET OFFN' THEIR ARSES AND GET THE BLOODY SHAT TOGETHER-John
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Matt Mattson » Mon May 17, 2010 4:32 pm

Hoser John wrote:I hope you saw 60 minutes last night as this diaster is miniscule IN COMPARISON TO THE WHATS REALLY GOING ON right now. TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO GET OFFN' THEIR ARSES AND GET THE BLOODY SHAT TOGETHER-John


That's right, there's an even worse one floating out there. With the Gov't collecting just as much in taxes off the fuel sales as the oil companies do in profits (makes them a partnership), they're just as implicated in my mind for the cleanup. So far, all we get is finger pointing.
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby gremlin » Tue May 18, 2010 2:45 am

the government must be deep in the pockets. every time i turn on the TV during the weekend. some politician is pushing ethanol. why ethanol, you use more fuel to go the same distance, more taxes for the state and feds.
even nascar is in to the ethanol, they switched from methanol. methanol is made from natural gas and wood. natural gas is nothing more than methane. every city in the world makes methane. if we can capture all the methane and never run out. unless every, sewage plant, hog, cow, and chicken farm all of a sudden ever stops working its a endless supply. add in just about every ware has gas wells. the supply just keeps coming in.
save a tree, eat a squirrel.
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Hoser John » Tue May 18, 2010 6:15 am

Funny thing is National Geo blew this story outta the water bigtime. ETHANOL is much more expensive than gas--it uses more fossil fuels to harvest,process and deliver than gas. It's carbon footprint(environutz bs) is much larger than gas and MUCH less efficent--but Al Gore is it's piped piper(blo jo mo fo) and the farm lobby is immense and where else do ya get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for doing nothing???John YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA god bless amerika
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Matt Mattson » Tue May 18, 2010 9:29 am

The only way ethanol makes sense is as a by product (as in wood chips, grass clippings from road mowing, etc.), but as John said, because of the farm lobby, we have corporate farms growing corn for fuel which has a bunch of people in other countries starving (the greenies conveniently don't mention this) and is about as stupid as it gets. To top it off, we get less mileage with the ethanol blends, so we have to buy more gasoline to go the same distance . . .

Don't know what to do, since successive presidents have tied our onshore oil deposits up in National Parks, which ropes us into drilling offshore or buying from savages that want us dead.

This coming election: please register and vote out all the incumbents (take the time to find out who they are). Time for a major overhaul.

BP Cash:

While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

On top of that, the oil giant has spent millions each year on lobbying — including $15.9 million last year alone — as it has tried to influence energy policy.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

An Obama spokesman rejected the notion that the president took big oil money.

“President Obama didn’t accept a dime from corporate PACs or federal lobbyists during his presidential campaign,” spokesman Ben LaBolt said. “He raised $750 million from nearly four million Americans. And since he became president, he rolled back tax breaks and giveaways for the oil and gas industry, spearheaded a G20 agreement to phase out fossil fuel subsidies, and made the largest investment in American history in clean energy incentives.”

In Congress, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), who last week cautioned that the incident should “not be used inappropriately” to halt Obama’s push for expansion of offshore drilling, has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of BP’s largesse. Her comments created some blowback, with critics complaining that she is too blasé about the impact of the disaster, even though she was among the first lawmakers to call for a federal investigation into the spill.

As the top congressional recipient in the last cycle and one of the top BP cash recipients of the past two decades, Landrieu banked almost $17,000 from the oil giant in 2008 alone and has lined her war chest with more than $28,000 in BP cash overall.

“Campaign contributions, from energy companies or from environmental groups, have absolutely no impact on Sen. Landrieu’s policy agenda or her response to this unprecedented disaster in the Gulf,” said Landrieu spokesman Aaron Saunders. “The senator is proud of the broad coalition she’s built since her first day in the Senate to address the energy and environmental challenges in Louisiana and in the nation. This disaster only makes the effort to promote and save Louisiana’s coast all that more important.”

Several BP executives have given directly to Landrieu’s campaign, including current and previous U.S. operation Presidents Lamar McKay and Robert Malone. Other donors include Margaret Hudson, BP’s America vice president, and Benjamin Cannon, federal affairs director for the U.S. branch. Donations ranged from $1,000 to $2,300 during the past campaign cycle.

Environmentalists complain that Landrieu has played down the impact of oil spills.

“I mean, just the gallons are so minuscule compared to the benefits of U.S. strength and security, the benefits of job creation and energy security,” Landrieu said at a hearing last month on offshore drilling. “So while there are risks associated with everything, I think you understand that they are quite, quite minimal.”

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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby russau » Wed May 19, 2010 3:48 am

i agree with what Matt has stated, but the EZ part is voting them incumbants out! the hard part is doing your own research about those your voting into office! im sure the socalled "representatives" of ours are keenly aware of their fate this coming election time and are preparing "their" new person for the upcoming elections. if you see thei lips moving youll know they are lieing! check their track record on voting on issues out. if there isnt a track record, ask them! and dont put up with any jiberish from them. and know about what your talking about or you wont know if they just say what you want to hear! if we dont do our research into these "new" candidates, we will only vote in the same ole socalled "representatives" that we just voted out and that wont do America or us any good!
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby Hoser John » Wed May 19, 2010 6:39 am

i LIKE TO SHOW UP FOR RALLIES/SPECHES WITH THEIR VOTING RECORD IN HAND. tried to get into the Rove speech last week but got strongarmed. Would you believe that according to his history rewrite there were WMD's in Iraq, Bush was the savior of new Orleans and there was no economic catastophe on his watch- :o John
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Re: Enough With The Blame Game

Postby russau » Wed May 19, 2010 1:52 pm

John you must have seen his lips moving again! haha
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