Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

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Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby C-17A » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:47 am

Greetings Gold Dredgers,

Well if you haven't been keeping up on the endless attacks by the Left in this country on our 2nd Amendment, listen up!

In the wake of the school shooting, she is promising to introduce new gun control legislation on 3 Jan 13, that will be in effect the old Clinton-era Assault Weapons ban, all over again, but only much, MUCH worse! :cry:

Highlights include registrations, photos/fingerprinting, a $200 tax per weapon, a limit on 10 rounds per magazine, and your gun forefited to the federal government when you die! :shock:

I was alerted by the NRA-ILA this morning, and have invested about 4 1/2 hours e-mailing my local state representative, senator, my governor & 2 U.S. Senators.

I also sent an e-mail to Speaker Boehner, and the top 5 other positions in the House. I also e-mailed ALL the Republican Senators. Yep, all of them. It was a lot of typing, but not as bad as you'd think, as I first drafted a short letter in Word, and then simply copied/pasted it into each e-mail contact text screen. Many of the personal info blocks self-load with the first number/letter typed, so it went faster than I thought. After a while you get into a real click, copy, paste, type battle rhythm... :wink:

All Republican U.S. Senators can be reached easily at this web page. Just hit the scroll down menue, select, click, go leave them an e-mail at their web page:

http://www.republican.senate.gov/public/

Sen. Lugar's office must be called, no e-mail: 1-202-224-4814.

I am telling all you gun owners out there, NOW is the time to get loud, get mad, get busy contacting ALL you elected officials, at local, county, state & federal levels and oppose this outrageous proposed legislation!

If we don't speak up, and in a BIG way, we'll lose our 2nd Amendment rights like never before!!!!

The fight is on!

Randy "C-17A" :x

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Here's my canned e-mail letter I sent FYI:


WE MUST Stop Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill -- ALL Of It!

Dear Senator XXXXX,

I was just alerted by the NRA concerning provisions of the draft bill Sen. Feinstein plans to introduce in Congress on 3 Jan 13.

It's absolutely outrageous -- a total violation of my 2nd Amendment rights & freedom in America!

Among other things, it calls for registration of many of my guns, photos & fingerprints be sent in, pay a $200 tax per gun, limits all magazines to just 10 rounds, and requires my guns be forfeited to the government when I die.

Are we now Venezuela, Mexico or Cuba? God forbid!

As an avid sportsman, shooter, hunter, gun collector -- and a law abiding citizen -- I implore you in the strongest possible way to stand up, totally reject this gun control effort by the Liberal Leftists/Marxists in our country, and especially in Congress!

Sen. Feinstein has it 110% wrong. She's trying to make me & millions of others criminals with her legislation. The school shooting was & is a national tragedy, but for the Left to use the dead as pawns for their own anti-gun agendas is despicable & unconscionable. The old Assault Weapons ban under President Clinton did absolutely nothing good -- but cause panic buying, gun/magazine/ammo hoarding, raise prices and didn't affect criminals or crime rates. The FBI says less than 1% of gun violence is related to so called assault weapons.

So, as a Republican Senator, one of few with any smarts, common sense in Washington, D.C. -- PLEASE HELP US! Don't let ANY of this gun ban B.S. to go forward. The Liberals always forget the criminal is to blame, not the weapon, be it a gun, knife, bat, bomb, etc. Don't let Sen. Feinstein make me a criminal!

Our 2nd Amendment, our Constitution, which all federal employees are sworn to "support & defend" is under direct attack by the Left.

If you fail, we all fail...

Thank you in advance for your strongest support on this VERY important issue!

V/R,

Randy L. Witham
Colonel, USAF (Ret.)
Sportsman, Shooter, Hunter, Collector
Buena Vista, Colorado

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Here's the NRA's warning e-mai to us alll:

Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)—author of the federal “assault weapon” and “large” ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004—has announced that on the first day of the new Congress—January 3rd— she will introduce a bill to which her 1994 ban will pale by comparison. On Dec. 17th, Feinstein said, “I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation” and “It will be carefully focused.” Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.

According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of “assault weapon” that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners.

Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:

• Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein’s new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.

• Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the “pistol grip” of which “protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,” the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any “grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” Also, the new bill adds “forward grip” to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as “a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.” Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California’s highly restrictive ban.

• Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein’s 1994 ban listed “grenade launcher” as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill carries goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing “rocket launcher.” Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add “nuclear bomb,” “particle beam weapon,” or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.

• Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:

• Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1944 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.

• Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.

• Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches,” any “semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.

• Requires owners of existing “assault weapons” to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE’s permission to transport the firearm across state lines.

• Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

• Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any greater than 10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.

Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm “overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.” Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines “overwhelmingly chosen” by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.

• Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill’s list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. Other than for the 11 detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles and one other semi-automatic rifle included in the list, however, the list appears to be pointless, because a separate provision of the bill exempts “any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action.”

The Department of Justice study. On her website, Feinstein claims that a study for the DOJ found that the 1994 ban resulted in a 6.7 percent decrease in murders. To the contrary, this is what the study said: “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders. Our best estimate is that the ban contributed to a 6.7 percent decrease in total gun murders between 1994 and 1995. . . . However, with only one year of post-ban data, we cannot rule out the possibility that this decrease reflects chance year-to-year variation rather than a true effect of the ban. Nor can we rule out effects of other features of the 1994 Crime Act or a host of state and local initiatives that took place simultaneously.”

“Assault weapon” numbers and murder trends. From the imposition of Feinstein’s “assault weapon” ban (Sept. 13, 1994) through the present, the number of “assault weapons” has risen dramatically. For example, the most common firearm that Feinstein considers an “assault weapon” is the AR-15 rifle, the manufacturing numbers of which can be gleaned from the BATFE’s firearm manufacturer reports, available here. From 1995 through 2011, the number of AR-15s—all models of which Feinstein’s new bill defines as “assault weapons”—rose by over 2.5 million. During the same period, the nation’s murder rate fell 48 percent, to a 48-year low. According to the FBI, 8.5 times as many people are murdered with knives, blunt objects and bare hands, as with rifles of any type.

Traces: Feinstein makes several claims, premised on firearm traces, hoping to convince people that her 1994 ban reduced the (relatively infrequent) use of “assault weapons” in crime. However, traces do not indicate how often any type of gun is used in crime. As the Congressional Research Service and the BATFE have explained, not all firearms that are traced have been used in crime, and not all firearms used in crime are traced. Whether a trace occurs depends on whether a law enforcement agency requests that a trace be conducted. Given that existing “assault weapons” were exempted from the 1994 ban and new “assault weapons” continued to be made while the ban was in effect, any reduction in the percentage of traces accounted for by “assault weapons” during the ban, would be attributable to law enforcement agencies losing interest in tracing the firearms, or law enforcement agencies increasing their requests for traces on other types of firearms, as urged by the BATFE for more than a decade.

Call Your U.S. Senators and Representative: As noted, Feinstein intends to introduce her bill on January 3rd. President Obama has said that gun control will be a “central issue” of his final term in office, and he has vowed to move quickly on it.

Contact your members of Congress at 202-224-3121 to urge them to oppose Sen. Feinstein’s 2013 gun and magazine ban.

Our elected representatives in Congress must here from you if we are going to defeat this gun ban proposal.

You can write your Representatives and Senators by using our Write Your Representatives tool here: http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-loca ... -reps.aspx

Millions of Americans own so-called “assault weapons” and tens of millions own “large” magazines, for self-defense, target shooting, and hunting.

For more information about the history of the “assault weapon” issue, please visit www.GunBanFacts.com.




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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby russau » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:58 pm

i assume everyone knows that judges and these socalled "representatives" of ours carry a conceled fire arm. and finstein had a mental/phisycal breakdown and that would cause the average American to lose their CCW permit forever! i wonder if she still has hers?? her,of all people to complain! usually those that complain the most have the most to hide!
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby tommyknocker » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:02 pm

Russ,
I didn't know Dike-stien had a break-down! That explains a lot...she's a couple of French Fries short of a "Happy Meal"! :shock:

I'm a Californian & am going to send her a fact-laden "nasty-gram"...and then I will receive the usual arrogant "I know what's better for you than you do" response from her handlers...
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby russau » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:09 am

hahaha!i thought she was a "whopper" anyway! everytime she opens her mouth, it confirms my suspissions!
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby Ron_L » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:58 am

Russ,
I can't find anything about a "Breakdown"...
Do you know what year or any other details?

Thanks
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby russau » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:41 am

Ron maybe im wrong on who it was. it was one of them Cal. socalled "representatives",but iwas several (5-7)_years back.but the way their voeing on issues towatds small scale miners/dredgers, i think they ALL had a mental breakdown!
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby gremlin » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:09 pm

its OK i scare the heck out of her. i have a gun. the problem is i train more with my personal weapon than the cops, the local guard units, and the army. why do i know this because i train with them. at one time i was the local national guard member, the cops we had in our unit were very happy they could put down the training in the guards as on duty training for there job.
save a tree, eat a squirrel.
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby Ron_L » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:40 pm

Ok Russ, I got it figured out now, this is who I think you are referring to...
Sen. Pat Wiggins Youtube video
You can skip the "ADD" after a few seconds!!!
The other news would have been to good to be true :roll:

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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby russau » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:16 pm

HMMM?? maybe?? im getting to old to remeber or care anymore!
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Re: Sen. Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Ban Bill

Postby klondike jake » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:30 pm

news from down under. since weapon ban put in place now for a year.
1. armed robbery up 300 %
2. assault with a deadly weapon up 100 %
3. murder up 30%
the murder one is not to bad.the drug lords just didnt turn in there weapons. business as usual.
4. break and enter (home robbery) up 150%
looks like they did real well down under . keeping the cops busy.
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