THE END OF ALL FORM OF DREDGING

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THE END OF ALL FORM OF DREDGING

Postby Hoser John » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:12 am

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All Types Of Treasure HuntingPETITION TO END ALL FORMS OF DREDGING
We have been telling folks to shut up and dredge in many ways for years QUIETLY but certain BIG mouth ignorants fools refuse to shut the LL up so adios to all forms of dredging now-no more,barrels,gravity or blastn'. Kudos goes out to Calgolddredger for all his efforts to SHUT FOLKS BIG MOUTHS so we could ALL still try to eek out a living to support our families but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cancer from the klamath ==as usual--put out a internet bulletin explaining how to kill all dredging so here is yet another direct result of their insideous actions-


Quote Reply Topic: Enviro's petition to DF&G
Posted: Yesterday at 10:05pm
You guys all forget the enviros follow these forums religiously and all the talk about how to get around the regs on suction dredging has riled the enviros and hence this latest assault on us. The internet is open to all. Now we pay the price. Look at the evidence they present.
2(and arbitrary) regulatory definition of “suction dredging” as requiring a sluice box.
9
They merely remove the sluice box, a device used to separate gold from dredgedmaterial.
10 However, their motorized dredging operations still use a vacuum system to
dredge material from the river and are therefore still subject to the statute and variousprovisions of the 2012 regulations as indicated by CDFW guidance.
11 It is dredging of
river bottoms with the use of vacuum equipment that is the operative violation of statute,not whether or not a “sluice box” is being employed as a sediment sorting mechanism.However, CDFW staff arbitrarily contradicted their own guidance and authorizedunregulated vacuum dredge mining as “not prohibited”
12 noting “[t]here is no specific
permit required and no seasonal restrictions. Since this is not suction dredging, neitherthe moratorium or [CDFW’s] adopted regulations for suction dredging apply. It’sessentially a loophole in existing law.”
13 This shift in position is based on CDFW staff’s
“guess [] that such a system will be less efficient, and less excavation will occur, than if[one] were using a suction dredge . . . .”
14 In the context of a moratorium, it is not
possible for “less excavation” to occur. This position even recognizes that the sluice boxwill be substituted by “some other system to sort through the material.”
15 CDFW’s
change in position
16 is arbitrary as staff’s “guess” does not constitute a factual or
statutory basis for the shift.Petitioners are a coalition of tribal, environmental, and fisheries groups. Their proposedamendments are intended to close the potential loophole currently being exploited byminers and to bring the 2012 regulations into full compliance with the California Fish andGame Code. As a result, the unmitigated impacts from unregulated vacuum dredgemining will cease as required by the statute. Additionally, if the regulations are revisedand once the moratorium is lifted, these new “vacuum dredge” operations will also be


Dave McCracken. Motorized Suction Mining is Allowed in California! The New 49’ers.
http://www.goldgold.com/motorized-sucti ... -2013.html. Accessedon 16 Jan 2013.
California Department of Fish and Wildlife. Suction Dredge Permitting Program.
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/suctiondredge. Accessed 18 Jan 2013.
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Mark Stopher. Underwater Suction Gravel Transfer Systems. California Department of Fish and
Wildlife. Email to j-clark1@hotmail.com, from Mark.Stopher@wildlife.ca.gov. Sent 2 Jan 2013. Availableon http://www.goldprospectors.org/forum...ION+MINING&PN=
5&title=working-underwater-in-california-this-year. Accessed 28 Jan 2013.
13
Id.; Malcolm Terence, Two Rivers Tribune, Gold Prospectors Spot Loophole in State’s Dredge Mining
Moratorium, March 4, 2013
http://www.tworiverstribune.com/2013/03 ... -instates-
dredge-mining-moratorium
Last Accessed on March 18, 2013.Mark Stopher. Underwater Suction Gravel Transfer Systems. California Department of Fish and
Wildlife. Email to j-clark1@hotmail.com, from Mark.Stopher@wildlife.ca.gov. Sent 2 Jan 2013. Availableon http://www.goldprospectors.org/forum...ION+MINING&PN=
5&title=working-underwater-in-california-this-year. Accessed 28 Jan 2013
Earl Crosby. RE: Latest News from Miner forums. Department of Natural Resources, Karuk Tribe. Email
from ecrosby@karuk.us. Sent 3 Jan 2013); Mark Stopher. RE: Dredging w/o a sluice box. California
Department of Fish and Wildlife. Email to Craig Tucker, from
Mark.Stopher@wildlife.ca.gov. Sent 6 Mar



NOTICE OF PETITION
Director Charlton H. BonhamCalifornia Department of Fish andWildlife1416 Ninth Street, 12
th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814Email:
director@wildlife.ca.gov
John Laird, Secretary for NaturalResourcesCalifornia Natural Resources Agency1416 Ninth Street, Suite 1311Sacramento, CA 95814(916) 653-5656
secretary@resources.ca.gov
John Mattox, Senior Staff CounselCalifornia Department of Fish andWildlife1416 Ninth Street, 12th FloorSacramento, California 95814Phone: (916) 651-7648
john.mattox@wildlife.ca.gov
Mark Stopher, Senior Policy AdvisorCalifornia Department of Fish andWildlife601 Locust StreetRedding, CA 96001Phone: 530.225.2275
mstopher@dfg.ca.gov
March 20, 2013Pursuant to section 11340.6 of the California Government Code, Cal. Gov. Code §11340.6, the Center for Biological Diversity, Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen’sAssociations, Institute for Fisheries Resources, Karuk Tribe, Friends of the River,California Sportfishing Protection Alliance, Foothill Angler’s Coalition, North ForkAmerican River Alliance, Upper American River Foundation, Central SierraEnvironmental Resource Center, Environmental Law Foundation, and KlamathRiverkeeper (collectively “Petitioners”) as interested parties hereby petition the Directorof the California Department of Fish and Wildlife (“CDFW”) to amend section 228 of theSuction Dredge Permitting Program regulations (“2012 regulations”), 14 C.C.R. 228, asprovided herein.The proposed amendments ensure vacuum and suction dredge equipment is regulated asrequired by the California Fish and Game Code. §§ 5653
et. seq. Miners are usingvacuum and suction dredge equipment in violation of the 2012 regulations and thestatutory requirements. CDFW staff arbitrarily authorized unregulated use of vacuumand suction dredge equipment contrary to guidance on the Department’s website. Theproposed amendments remove the component list from the definition of suction dredgemining, ensure that all permits issued under the 2012 regulations are accompanied by afinding of no significant impacts, and ensure that all fees collected fully cover the cost ofadministering the program.Petitioners hereby request that CDFW approve the proposed amendments underemergency rulemaking authority pursuant to California Government Code section11346.1. The unregulated vacuum and suction dredge miners pose harms constituting an
emergency. These harms include impacts to public health and safety from mercury

Oh heck it's 28 pages long so go here to read the latest shaft to miners http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/c...g_Petition.pdf

Due to the increased price of ammo, do not expect a "warning" shot,response time will be measured in feet per second
. A Gov. afraid of it's citizens, tries to control their guns
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Re: THE END OF ALL FORM OF DREDGING

Postby russau » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:50 am

seems like these wacoenviromentalists and gubermint "officials" are on a roll this time.look for this in your backyard very soon!
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