A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

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A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby C-17A » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:49 am

Hey Gold Dredgers...

A absolutely HUGE win for California suction dredgers (and all of us, the prospecting/mining community at large) in the courts on 12 Jan 2015!!!!!

MANY thanks to all that helped get the Reinhart decision published, so Judge Ochoa could reference it numerous times in his decision. Now, we have about a month to wait and see IF the Kalifornia Supreme Court will hear or refuse to hear the State of Kalifornia's request to depublish the Reinhart decision. Personally, I think that train has left the station, as Judge Ochoa has already used it in our favor!!!

I read all 20+ pages of Judge Ochoa's decision/rulings. The most important paragraphs are copied below, FYI. He decided Kalifornia has effectively banned suction dredging, not just "regulating" it, by requiring permits and then making it impossible to issue permits.

The New 49ers e-mail from Dave McCracken is copied below too, with the links, if you want to go see the documents for yourself.

WAY TO GO EVERYONE THAT HELPED WITH DONATIONS TO THEIR LEGAL FUNDS, WROTE LETTERS TO THE COURTS!!!! :P

Randy Witham "C-17A" :) www.goldadventures.biz
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Kimble MSA on it s 1St COA and PLP MSA on it s 4th COA

Kimble argues that most suction dredge mining in California occurs on Federal lands
where a miner has validly located and filed a Federal mining claim pursuant to Federal
mining law. This creates for the miner an enforceable property right under Federal law
to extract all minerals from his mining claim. Suction dredge mining is the only
economical and environmentally sound method for extracting minerals from California s
rivers and streams But F G Code 5653 1 since 2009 along with the CDFW new
regulations in 2012 prohibits Federal prospectors and miners who hold Federal
mining claims and mineral estates from engaging in suction dredge mining on Federal
lands. Accordingly, Kimble contends they are entitled to summary adjudication of the
federal preemption cause of action as a matter of law since the California statute and
regulations impermissibly conflict with the 1872 General Mining Law as amended 30
U S C 22 54 and the 1976 Federal Land Policy Management Act 43 U S C
1701 et seq which provide that all valuable mineral deposits in lands belonging to the
United States shall be free and open to mineral development.

Kimble argues that CDFW has admitted that its 5653 1 constitutes a complete
prohibition on suction dredge mining because the mandated new regulations have not
and cannot fully mitigate all identified significant environmental impacts pursuant to F
G Code 5653 1 b 4 and therefore constitutes a physical impossibility to comply
with both State and Federal law citing among other cases California Coastal
Commission v Granite Rock Co 1987 480 U S 572 581 Granite Rock. Kimble
argues the general rule is that where the state law stands as obstacle to the
accomplishment the full purposes and objectives of Congress it is preempted, Granite
Rock supra 480 U S 575 592 see also Perez v Campbell 402 U S 637 1971

Any state legislation which frustrates the full effectiveness of Federal law is rendered
invalid by the Supremacy Clause regardless of the underlying purpose of its enactors.

The all pervading purpose of the mining laws is to further the speedy and orderly
development of the mineral resources of our country United States v Nogueira 403
F 2d 816 823 9th Cir 1968 see also 30 U S C 21a 1 The continuing policy of the
Federal Government in the national interest to foster and encourage private enterprise
in the development of the economically sound and stable domestic mining minerals
metal and mineral reclamation industries.

To further these vital public policies the 1872 Mining Act declares
all valuable mineral deposits in lands belonging to the United States
both surveyed and un-surveyed shall be free and open to exploration and
purchase and the lands in which they are found to occupation and
purchase by citizens of the United States 30 U S C 22.

PLP makes essentially the same arguments.

Ruling:

On their motions for summary adjudication the Court finds there is no triable issue of
material fact on the issue of Federal Preemption and that as a matter of law and in
actual fact that the State's extraordinary scheme of requiring permits and then refusing
to issue them whether and or being unable to issue permits for years stands as an
obstacle to the accomplishment of the full purposes and objectives of Congress under
Granite Rock and a de facto ban.

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New 49ers MSA on it s 2nd COA

In the second causes of action of the New 49ers FAC Plaintiffs allege that through the
1872 Mining Law as amended and related statutes Congress created federal property
rights in mining claims in furtherance of general federal policy to foster mineral
development on federal lands. Also, Congress possesses plenary power over federal
property under the Property Clause U S Const Art IV 3 FAC 62 The New
49ers allege that the CDFW Actions F G Code 5653 1 and regulations thereunder
individually and or in any combination thereof are void as against the U S Constitution
on the ground of the Supremacy Clause U S Constitution Article VI Clause 2 insofar
as they interfere with the federal purpose of fostering mineral development on federal
property and stand as an obstacle to the accomplishment and execution of the
purposes and objectives of Congress. FAC 63

The New 49ers argue they are entitled to summary adjudication of their
second cause of action for federal preemption of F G Code 5653 1 and portions of
the regulations set forth at 14 Cal Code of Regs 228 et seq, which operate to forbid
Plaintiffs from mining their claims. The New 49ers acknowledge that the State of
California has lawful power to enact reasonable environmental regulations that do not
materially interfere with mining operations. In Granite Rock however the New 49ers
argue that the State cannot lawfully require permits and then refuse to issue them,
forbid mining entirely in certain areas or require miners to participate in a lottery to
obtain a very limited number of permits.

Specifically, the New 49ers contend the challenged statutory and regulatory
restrictions on suction dredge mining are preempted by federal law based on its
arguments regarding the nature of rights in mining claims under Federal law and
regulations and the doctrine of federal preemption generally and in the mining context.

The arguments of the New 49ers are similar to those of PLP and Kimble.

Ruling:

On its motions for summary adjudication the Court finds there is no triable issue of
material fact on the issue of Federal Preemption and that as a matter of law and in
actual fact that the State s extraordinary scheme of requiring permits and then refusing
to issue them whether and or being unable to issue permits for years stands as an
obstacle to the accomplishment of the full purposes and objectives of Congress under
Granite Rock and a de facto ban.


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From: Dave McCracken
Sent: ‎1/‎13/‎2015 6:15 PM
To:
Subject: Another HUGE win for our side!

San Bernardino Superior Court Judge Ochoa awarded California
suction dredgers a huge win today by declaring California's
"scheme" of first passing a law that requires us to obtain a
permit, and then passing another law making permits unavailable,
as an unlawful interference with the intention of congress.

Since we have invested so much for such a long time to get here,
I strongly encourage you to read the decision just below:

http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uplo ... Ruling.pdf

Here is a shorter summary by our attorney:

http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uplo ... -13-15.pdf

I will follow soon in our January newsletter with some perspective
on how this will affect the 2015 season. In the meantime, I will voice
my own opinion that at least until the California Supreme Court weighs
in (or chooses not to) on the recent Rinehart Decision (we will know
within a few weeks), I do not believe there is any chance the State of
California could successfully prosecute any person for operating a
suction dredge without a permit.

Once again, I want to thank all of you who have supported this effort.
It just goes to show that sometimes the good guys actually do win!

Happy New Year to everyone!

Dave McCracken
The New 49'ers Legal Fund

The New 49er's, 27 Davis Road, Happy Camp, California 96039, USA

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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby dickb » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:04 am

Yes this is great news and it has been a long time for it to finally be resolved.

Too bad that Jerry Hobbs wasn't able to see it happen. RIP Jerry.

We should remember that there is no way that CA is just going to walk away from this loss. We should expect that more attempts to stop us will be in our future. Make sure that you follow the rules and document your responsible dredging with photo's, so that if stopped and questioned, you can support your environmentally friendly use of you mining rights.

I hope this year is very prosperous for you and your families. Be Safe!

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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby russau » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:39 pm

thanks for posting this Randy! Dick I agree whole heartedly about Jerry living to see this come about! RIP Jerry!
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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby Ornery Cuss » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:49 pm

Don't think for a minuet this is over.
I will bet the cost of a 4" dredge that this is not over yet.
How long before we are back in court fighting this again.
Appeals, and more appeals until someone runs out of $$$ and gives up.
The lawyers make the $$$.



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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby russau » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:26 am

OC I agree with you. this aint over! never will be in other states!
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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby Hoser John » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:19 am

Legal papers are flying in the wind like leaves in the fall. MUCH going on behind scenes but good stuff also. Signed courts non disclosure so no details but you ain't seen/heard squat yet hahahaha....................John 8-)
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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby polekaat » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:12 am

Awesome news!
Maybe I'll take a couple of weeks off this summer and try out my 5" in Cali. Now.....I just need a buddy with a good claim.

The envirowhacos needed a good sound beating to put them in their place. Now we need to teach them to mind their own damn business.
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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby Hoser John » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:43 am

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Posted Today, 07:17 AM
BINGO the Center for Bio-Diversity just issued a huge manifesto that states the dredgers will now immediately run out and rip/shred/and tear up the fish during their spawning season. They all have cell phones and they all can take pictures so that EVIDENCE will prove ,along with their insane rant,that we are what they purport. It took 5 years of HARD WORK ,from 1985-1990, to get the Litle Hoover Commission to investigate the CDFG illegal practices. Then after a years work they issued their report in January 1990 that forced CDFG to adhere to CEQA. THEN 2 more years to have a CDFG meeting in Sacramento with Dwayne Johnston which drew 5 miners and 2 Home Rule folks. We got a Dredge Committe out of this meeting a year later and in early 1993 we started the arduous task of formulating dredge regulations that were workable. Then through obstructionism and fillabuster the FOR PROFIT CLUBS AND MINERS RIGHTS GROUPS DEMANDED IT ALL...OR NOTHING. Which of coarse lost us 160++ miles of open rivers/ paying dredging projects from the dept AND the monitored operations to prove our 97%++ mercury/heavy metals/trash removal. Then with no committee to voice our concerns the rest is history as step by step down the slippery slope our rights went into the toilet. Well you've had the profiteers ALL OR NOTHING for 7 years...how about the rest of our lives and our childrens childens rights Your actions reflect upon us all and I'd truly hate to be the dredgers who grace the CBDs website as proof of us being animals who just rob/rape and pillage and the enviroment be censored-. John
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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby Plumas » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:04 am

John, as always, my hats off to you.

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Re: A HUGE Win for Suction Dredgers in Kalifornia!!!

Postby Hoser John » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:56 am

Your kind words are graciously appreciated. Over 30 years of fighting for miners rights . NOW the real fight has begun,like Custers last stand exactly,out numbered,out banked,surrounded ...but a few of us REAL miners are working miracles behind closed doors..... :? 23rd is D Day as CDFG digs in it's heels as a rogue agency out of control...John
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