Oroville

[russau]

If you already voted to a tax increase for money to fix up the dams and it didn't happen , the California voters NEED to do something about it! NOT having faith in CDof Transportation is a BAD THING! Here in Misery we had a similar situation where we voted to raise taxs for highway improvements and these jerks went and spent the $$$$$$$$$ (and lots of it) on a different project and then had the gall to come back and ask for more money to fix the highways AGAIN ,,,,,,,,,,,It has been turned down since and public trust is the reason for it and it has been told "we don't trust you AT ALL!" several people were moved around playing their "blame game" trying to hide their FUs just like the EPA and other departments of our gubermint! Its long past time for the California people to get serious and vote them BUMBS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!!!! JERRY BROWNS GOTTA GO and ALL OF THEM DAMOCRAPS !

[Hoser John]

Shasta is just fine,fulller than in years but just fine. ALL cement with dozens of massive outlets and a huge drum rollover on the top that releases so much water it's amazing. I live a few miles from the dam and if it ever went well what a fast ride to frisco. I sent a number of you the truth about the dam being NOT fixed as mandated in 2005 but no cash given for the project-fake news again?? They just said no problem. Truth is they were warned again 2 years ago about cracks,chunks falling out etc etc and they were so ungodly lazy the did NOT inspect the dam in person,just took a pair of field glasses and looked at the mess and said oh it's ok NOT. Think of a water jet fabricator that cuts through 2" steel like a flash...now consider 135,000 gallons of water A SECOND and it's capabilities at what 3lbs or so a gallon. Adios mo'fo'. Anyhow sent the study article to Russ and Leonard but att/yahoo at war so can't lift to post here??? John

[Hoser John]

http://www.redding.com/story/news/local ... /97917666/


more than 1 way to skin a cat hahahaha-there are 9 0f those huge openings on the face-look bottom left-see those 4 huge tubes(4 busses will fit-go on the tour) and that whole top rolls over ...sweet-John

[LipCa]

You can see something patched or falling apart on the 2015 Google Earth (Oroville spillway)

[Plumas]

It's starting to smell really bad.

Take a close look at these images http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/califo ... 75564.html

Notice whats missing? Rebar. Doggone.. My patio, poured by a concrete hip neighbor down the street has 1/2" rebar on 18" centers and about the largest strain it will ever face is the impact of a beer can slipping out of my fingers. Interstate highways have 2" rebar on 12" centers. It is absolutely mind boggling they would build such a structure without steel reinforcement. Did their rebar money wander off thru corruption or were they simply cutting corners when the dam was constructed?

DWR. records show they have been patching cracks in the main spillway for several years. But never once was an engineer brought in and core samples drilled to determine the cause. And Hoser is right. It's true they were often inspecting the spillway from "some distance." I find it unbelievable DWR. didn't have at least one flunky in their employ who could put on their tennis shoes and walk the structure once every summer.

John's story about the 2005 worries are true and for once the environmentalists had it right but they blew it off. Having once lived near Covelo (Ca.) (Where they had once hoped to construct a dam on the Eel River back in the early 60's.) I'm well aware of the scores of bore holes that were drilled for soil testing. The emergency spillway is a total joke. Built atop red clay. I find it near impossible to believe soil testing didn't point out huge potential problems with their emergency spillway plan long BEFORE the dam was built and they should have been dealt with when the dam was constructed.

The emergency spillway is a bit over 1,700 feet long and was supposed the capacity to accommodate 250,000 cfs. of water. It failed at 12,000 cfs. just 5% of it's rated capacity. On Television, a DWR. rep. was trying to explain that low flows of water cause more erosion than high flows. Huh? really?? My garden hose says he's lying.

I'll stop my rant and close with the thought that when you build a 3.5 million acre foot dam above the homes of 200,000 people the public should have the expectation that such a dam is well over engineered and is always maintained in tip-top condition. DWR. clearly has some tough questions to answer.

Plumas

[russau]

John thanks for posting this here. The one you sent me wont open!

[Plumas]

Russ

Clicky here. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

May not be exactly what John sent but still a good summary.

Plumas

[Ornery Cuss]

I wanna hit the exposed bed rock under the never to be used emergency spillway after the water scoured away the overburden

OC

[Hoser John]

lousy California bureauratz in non action

[golden optimist]

I'm waiting for Pelousey to blame it on Trump. And yes, I meant to spell it the way I did!
Leonard