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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby russau » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:54 am

small scale mining/prospecting is a Congressional given RIGHT! recreational isnt!
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby dickb » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:30 pm

Hi Again:

Just left Randy's forum and Al found a ACOE document that may be worthy to read check out page 4 about prospecting and dredging.

http://www.usace.army.mil/CECW/Document ... vol3_2.pdf

Russ, what do you think of it? Maybe forward it on to J. Hobbs

Looks to me that these guys are just picking and choosing what they want to use and to heck with the rest of it.
I was reading that the ACOE has been given authority over all of the watersheds in the US, so the question is is there any one regulation that says that the individual LEO can determine what he feels is right for his district?

Sure getting more cloudy by the day. :oops: :?:

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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby russau » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Dick this is a 2004 document.
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby dickb » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:30 pm

Hi Russ:

That's right. but it's from Washington, and I haven't found anything that superceeds it. It looks like the Ga COE is using it and just pulling the parts that they want to use from it and ignoring the rest of the guidelines. And maybe I'm nuts and missing something, but I thought the districts were suppose to follow Washingtons regulations without any latitude to pick and choose what they liked in them.

What I'm seeing here is the FS,BLM,Corp and States are writting regulations at their whim based on bad science and forcing the prospectors to follow their rules or get busted, fined and have their equipment confiscated.

As Hoser said "the cancer is spreading"! :oops:

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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby russau » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:24 am

on the east side of the Mississippi River they play by different rules than the states west of the Mississippi River.
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby gremlin » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:41 am

russau wrote:on the east side of the Mississippi River they play by different rules than the states west of the Mississippi River.



you got that right. but were still full of fruits and nuts on this side. Indiana just got freaking nuttier. now even if you have permission to dredge on some ones property, you must have a letter from the property owner. sounds simple huh. but when you have the paper work ready the property owners get a bit skittish. you can now get arrested if your in a public water way. the thing is in the middle of a river you must find out who owns the land on both sides and get paper work from them just in case.
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby dickb » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:25 pm

Do Boaters, fisherman, duck hunters, etc, have to do that?

Kinda sounds like are civil rights are being violated. There I go throwing out the "D" card.

This really is getting worse by the minute! :evil:

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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby gremlin » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:44 pm

dickb wrote:Do Boaters, fisherman, duck hunters, etc, have to do that?

Kinda sounds like are civil rights are being violated. There I go throwing out the "D" card.

This really is getting worse by the minute! :evil:

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i think you must do it if your hunting on privet property. but i don't think the law looks close at that.
you can check up on the places to hunt and the new rules at the links. should not be much longer the cops will have big problems. every one will be broker than durt trying to find a small bit of cash. you will need a lot of cops to keep every one out.
http://indyprospector.com/INGPAA/index.htm
http://www.southernindianagold.com/
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby russau » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:01 am

Mel thanks for the two In. links!
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Re: Lake Allatoona. GA Corps rule

Postby gremlin » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:30 am

no problem. some of the indiana sites change there web service from time to time. its all in trying to keep cost down. why pay for a website if you can find a few host for free.

our problem started with a few dnr officers that tried to over step there boundary's. then there are a few rivers they want to keep every one out endangered critters are in them waters. that endangered critter fight will soon be over. we have Asian carp taking over. the hole rivers are going to go. the sad part is there is a way to fix it, there just to stubborn to do it. if we fish them out the will no longer be a porblem. there afrade if they try to give out fishing licennes for the fish and every one is makeing cash from them there will be some that try breading them. the sad part is we should start breading programs for the endangerd criters. that way they mite make it. we have a endangerd mussle here in the river here. there not endangerd if there in lakes. they should make small ponds bread the mussles and place them in the rivers. but you will never see that happen. no cash in taking the criters off the endangerd listing.
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