Water Board Permits-Kalif of coarse!!

[russau]

its really a shame when friends start chewing on each other over something they have no controll over! frustrating as it maybe! kinda takes the fun out of it!

[CalGoldDredger]

I suppose you are referring to me, I am probably the first one on this forum to openly speak the truth about McCrack and his goons. The responses to my feelings and accusations about McCrak and his goons from you Russau and others are one of the reasons I pretty much left this forum. I fought hard at one time for California Dredgers and do know the truth about what those goons did. I totally predicted what the outcome of all this was, but most decided to do nothing (donating to PLP was like doing nothing too). Now everyone just complains about the outcome and asks why didn't anyone do anything........The heII with kiddies reading this forum... this is (or was) a forum for dredgers and each and every dredger I know used loads of language that may be offensive to some So WTF? WE LOST DREDGING IN CALIFORNIA and I am fuggin pissed! At least I can still mine for gold... just not dredge

Steve, Yep, I am just about at that same point myself.
I, too, was misled in the belief that this forum was for gold dredgers but...
Came to the realization of the very fabric to which these forums are made up of...(fun-fun-fun club land)
Better to stick with us local miners and claim owners for association in these times, as most of us observe it from the same clear vantage point.
And you won't be persecuted for it as you, I, and anyone that views it differently from the recreational group of deciples just as we have seen happening on here.

It is not all about FUN, it is about finding gold, just a dang shame both can't mingle.

[russau]

i personnaly think your over playing this on the persicution bit! but you do have your own opinion! how many websites can you think of that allow cursing/slander???? none!!! you cant/wont even prove or backup what you are saying, but continue to public whipping yourself and then blaim someone else! i think youd feel differently if someone started cursing/slandering you or your friends! but then again, that would be a different story! yep, im a EZ target for you! you need to channel all that anger at the wacogreenies who desearve it! but i guess that would be to hard of a thing for you to bear! atleast while your harping on me, your leaving someone else alone! have a good life!

[russau]

now that ive thought about it somemore,it really bothered me that ,what i thought were friends, turned so vicious! i guess ,what i took as their friendship,wasnt friendship at all! ill play my cards closer from now on! yep, you got one over on me! and yes i guess i assumed to much! wont happen anymore!

[rivraton]

I suppose you are referring to me, I am probably the first one on this forum to openly speak the truth about McCrack and his goons. The responses to my feelings and accusations about McCrak and his goons from you Russau and others are one of the reasons I pretty much left this forum. I fought hard at one time for California Dredgers and do know the truth about what those goons did. I totally predicted what the outcome of all this was, but most decided to do nothing (donating to PLP was like doing nothing too). Now everyone just complains about the outcome and asks why didn't anyone do anything........The heII with kiddies reading this forum... this is (or was) a forum for dredgers and each and every dredger I know used loads of language that may be offensive to some So WTF? WE LOST DREDGING IN CALIFORNIA and I am fuggin pissed! At least I can still mine for gold... just not dredge

Steve, Yep, I am just about at that same point myself.
I, too, was misled in the belief that this forum was for gold dredgers but...
Came to the realization of the very fabric to which these forums are made up of...(fun-fun-fun club land)
Better to stick with us local miners and claim owners for association in these times, as most of us observe it from the same clear vantage point.
And you won't be persecuted for it as you, I, and anyone that views it differently from the recreational group of deciples just as we have seen happening on here.

It is not all about FUN, it is about finding gold, just a dang shame both can't mingle.

El Dorado, I doubt that you were even missed...
CDG don't let the door hit ya!

[russau]

actaully i dont want anyone to leave. just respect others as you would like for yourself. i can take a punch,but wheres that takeing us as a group? no other website puts up with that kind of actions. they would be banned after the first incident. Leonard is more layed back and will tolerate it to a point. i dont see the need for it for this or any forum. i say aim that frustration to the wacos! everyone is pzzed/mad about wahts happening on the westcoast.its stopping our rights that Congress gave us those rights,and now these western states (dems/wacoenviromentalists)) are deciding they dont want you to have them. like the saying goes,: if you dont fight for it, you dont desearve it!" not to much more to say!

[getterdone]

Isn't that guy Cain who is running for President that said Water Boarding was a good thing ?

[dickb]

Here we have it again, black on white! The miners fighting among themselves and the Waco's laughing their heads off at us, instead of fighting back at them for limiting our rights.

REALLY SAD FOLKS!

Dickb

[Plumas]

I don't think Steve is assuming anything. I too watched it unfold. Backtrack to where this all began and look at who's back yard it started in and you'll clearly see why we're in this boat today. McCrack's to hell with the Indians, I'm making money here attitude did us in. Corporate greed pure and simple. The angry Karuk's mounted a defense and eventually won so here we are.

Steve's hit the nail squarely on the head and I'll back him 100%.

Plumas

[Hoser John]

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